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Question: "Why don't you use `social media' web sites ?"

Answer: "Mostly Anti- Social:

  • Trapping you to closed censored proprietary bubbles, unlike public email addresses.
  • More clueless users who fail the rigour of providing attributable references with assertions.
  • Infested with anonymous trolls.

Summary

Usually some users (Trolls) tend to hide behind anonymity to indulge in irresponsible libellous abuse & bullying, degrading conversations with flames etc. Normal users foolishly lock themselves into their commercial provider's subset of the internet, so its hard to attach, import/ export & quote, they often can't be contacted by any other public standard addresses of web home page / email/ phone/ post/ sms/ fax/ telex etc, & they are also un-contact-able if their provider cuts them off in any dispute, & because they are too dumb to realise all this they are usually also not net savvy, & usually fail to rigorously attribute sources & attach URLs (web refs etc) & too often fall gullible to unsubstantiated allegations, etc

This Is: http://www.berklix.com/jhs/txt/web_forums.html

Other Texts & FAQs by Julian H. Stacey

  • No, I'm not on web private forums eg Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Gulp etc.
  • No, Not everyone likes to use "[anti-] social media", aka web chatter forums.
  • No I'm not alone using mail lists, I am on maybe 100 mail lists that have lots of other people.
    One of my mail filters: www . berklix . com / ~jhs / dots / .procmailrc_lists
  • Yes, more people less technically skilled like click & fumble `[anti-] social' web forums.
  • Yes, lots don't want to learn mail lists or anything else either.
  • Yes, Most use Microsoft, No need to follow lemmings.
  • Yes, Mail lists can help exclude fumblers too lazy to think.
  • Yes that bar is low, known as I supported too many lazy incompetents on a small subset of mail lists.
  • Yes many technically highly competent friends like mail lists, & tend to avoid web forums that attract more newbies, & less skilled people.
  • Yes, Anonymous forums more often become ANTI-social, irresponsible, & trivial, Mail lists with a real personal sender addresses can tend to discourage some irresponsibility engendered by anonymity; Though yes, there's occasional flame wars too on mail lists.
  • Yes, web forums may avoid spam by mail, But also usually anonymous webs have adverts and more noise from members, so forums are then censored by usually unpaid egotists to keep noise down.

The choice becomes noise from mail spam (that can be automatically filtered) or noise from anonymous forum members with less discipline, subject to censors. You then get a choice of censors: Either egotists who think they are appreciated, but are not (power corrupts), or paid censors, responsible to a boss, but paid poorly, & overworked, better to let the the users themselves discipline, & split & merge between mail lists, on whichever forums, using plain human names, as people do in physical meetings.

  • I prefer noise from mail spam than forums, as I block almost all spam automatically. ( Despite my servers & my addresses are massively assailed by spammers, harvested from public archive sites with my addresses on, some un-obfuscated from era before spammers existed, + my domains + lists I'm on & run, (most especially all the MS PCs harvested by spammer viruses on clueless members of certain lists I run))
  • I avoid monopolists such as Microsoft Facebook Google etc trying to privatise the Internet & lock everyone in, so avoid using them. I'm a keen supporter of Open Source & Open Standards. Other supporters of Open Source & Standards in Munich include eg BIM & SFD & Linux & Gnu & other clubs.
  • I prefer Push (mail) To Pull (web) technology, eg I want my devices to be able to hold archives of messages to be read, without needing free instantaneous fast continuous internet connectivity.
  • BTW: Some domains such as freebsd.org offer a choice of mail lists & web forums. I don't use the web forums, but do use many of the mail lists.
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